Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

UPDATE 2/12/13 Like riding a bike, this takes some practice to use well. I just noticed a few days ago that I didn't have to think about using these pedals. It's finally gotten to be as natural as walking. As I said, well worth getting. The rubber mesh mat that I taped to the bottom is still in place. It's not pretty, but guess what? It's under the table and I can't see it anyway. I use my feet to lift up the edge nearest me and push it away for more legroom when not in use. Reach out with my feet, lift, and pull them closer when needed. I never thought that the rubberized padding would last this long but it did. See the pictures at the top of the product page. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many have written that these are plug and play. To some extent that may be true. BUT I wasn't getting the results that I thought I should be getting. So I did a search for how REAL pilots us rudder pedals and found that FSX had the settings wrong! To the best of my knowledge I have NEVER changed any settings for rudder pedals. And I'm the only one who has access to this computer. Perhaps this is related to flight sticks that let you turn the stick to control the rudder? So do a search of "How to use aircraft ruder pedals". IGNORE flight sim users and read the info from real life airplane pilots. In short, they say that the plane should yaw/turn IN THE DIRECTION OF THE PEDAL THAT YOU PUSH. In other (simplified) words, push the left pedal and the plane should start to turn to the left. Right pedal and it should start to turn to the right. I routinely land without using the pedals so this was never a problem with me. STEP ONE - Read how to use rudder pedals. NO NOT ASSUME that you are a natural born pilot and know how to do everything. STEP TWO - Place the rudders on your desk or a table to adjust/calibrate them. You WILL find this interesting and informative. The toe/differential brakes will need adjusting too. STEP THREE - Put them on the floor and test them. You may want to adjust them again. STEP FOUR - Re-read step one, and then practice using them in different situations. Rudder pedals DO NOT need to be used all of the time. But when you do need to use them you need to use them WITH SKILL. Skill takes time. STEP FIVE - The rudder pedals and ailerons are preset in FSX to work together. You need to un-link them. Go to Saitek's web site to learn how. TIPS: * You can use cheap rubber matting to keep the base from moving on carpeting or wood. * Next I'm going to try a little bit of carpet runner on the bottom of the base. See 6' VINYL LOW PILE for a picture. The best thing to do is to buy a 2 foot section from a local hardware store (they'll cut it to whatever length you want within reason). Just lay the base on the vinyl, outline the base and cut. Then use electrical tape to hold it in place. NOT scotch tape. NOT duct tape. Electrical tape. * If you rub a light coating of white lithium grease on the pedal extension plates (& then wipe any excess off) you can use these pedals like real aircraft pedals by sliding the heel of your feet back and forth on the plates. See my pictures on the main page. By the way, the extensions are SMOOTH., not ribbed as in the picture. * IF THE PLANE VERES RIGHT OR LEFT, with your feet off the pedals, adjust the rudder trim in FSX. OK, it's time for the review. I have, and prefer, the Eclipse Yoke . It has 4 buttons on the front that I use to start each individual engine, levers on the top that I've re-assigned to operate flaps, etc. AND 2 paddles that originally worked as rudder pedals (now the left paddle zooms in, the right zooms out). If money is short, or you just aren't sure that you want to invest much in a flight sim, you can use those paddles. They work fine. But the Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals are a BIG move towards greater realism. You DO need to set them up properly though. You also need to learn the proper way to use them. I'm still learning. Knowing how they work is not the same as gaining real life skill. I know how to juggle axes and burning torches. I've seen it on TV. But that's not the same as actually doing it. And doing it with skill. I would say that the longer you put off using these, the longer it's going to take you to learn how to use them correctly. Bad habits are hard to un-learn. They are needed for full control of light aircraft. Don't put off getting them. A side note - I wanted one of the more expensive Saitek rudder peddles but I'm glad that I saved my money and bought this one. AMAZON USER LAW #1 - The more someone rants about how bad something is, the less likely it is that they know how to use what they bought. Silly complaints; * The pedals are to close/far. - Look down at the pedals on the aircraft that you like to fly. Look at real pedals on the internet - THEY ARE ONLY A FEW INCHES APART IN REAL LIFE! * These ruder pedals aren't like REAL rudder pedals. - FLIGHT SIMS ARE NOT REAL LIFE! You are sitting at a table or desk. You are looking at a screen. Real planes don't use a QWERTY keyboard! * The center detent to strong/hard to move out of. - Some may have defective rudder pedal sets. My detent is very light, and easy to move out of. * The center detent makes it hard to make precision movements with the redder. - With the rudder pedals calibrated properly the amount of controlled rudder movement at the detent is probably ONE EIGTH OF A DEGREE! Some may have it way out of whack, but mine was perfect in that respect. * They slide all over the place on hardwood/vinyl floors or carpeting. - See my picture about the non-slip pad. It works on carpet just fine and will work on wood/vinyl too. But if you want to crank the knob up on the base try the 6' VINYL LOW PILE idea. END NOTE - The only real con that I can find is about the length of the cord. If you computer is on top of your desk then the cord may be too short.

I had read reviews on these products so I expected exactly what I got. They are excellent products and the complaints I had read about were valid but can't imagine how they can be remedied. The fact thaat the pedals slide on the floor is somewhat remedied by the velcro strips if you have rugs but if you don't, I guess you could put something on the floor first that the pedals can lock onto. The yoke can't be used as described since my keyboard is there so without using the encolsed locking attachments, I have the yoke and quadrant attached to a rectangular piece of wood along with the quadrant and then I can clamp it onto my desk. It works fine and solid and quick to set up. Nice products. I had CH products before and like Saitek much better. I don't know why more isn't explained for some of the features of the quadrant and yoke buttons. We're left in the dark experimenting and not getting anywhere. I liked the help I got from the technicians when I phoned about some set-up problem. They were kind and understanding. GA

My Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals just came in today. I selected next day air shipping, and they arrived, on time, just as Amazon promised. I've always had hassles when ordering products online, but this time I was very pleased. Amazon stuck to their word, and got my stuff to me right away. Upon receiving my package, I quickly opened it up. The rudder pedals look very nice, and quite similar to those in many real aircraft. Though they are made of plastic, they are very strong and seem to be well constructed. I set them down by the couch and put my feet on them. I had to adjust the foot rests to the largest setting because I have such large feet. They fit my feet well in this position, with only the very tips of my toes slightly over the edge. They feel very comfortable barefooted, in socks, and even with shoes. However, they do have a tendency to slide on the floor if not secured. This was no problem for me, because they are resting against my wall now, under my computer desk. The feel of the pedals is VERY nice and quite smooth. They are certainly not unlike those in a real aircraft. I'm currently training for my private VFR license, and these will be very nice to practice with. The tension adjustment knob is also very nice, and it makes adjusting your pedals to fit your preference very easy. You can really fine tune these things to get just the right feel. The toe brake motion also feels very smooth and precise. I decided to try them out with IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946, probably my favorite combat sim, first. I simply plugged in the pedals, installed the drivers, and was ready to go. Once IL-2 booted up, I went into the HOTAS control section and assigned the pedal axises. My first flight was a little shaky, as I was not used to using the pedals. I kept feeling myself wanting to twist the joystick at first. But, after a few minutes, I began getting the hang of it. These pedals allow you to make VERY precise yaw inputs for crosswind corrections, coordinated turns, complex maneuvers, and sighting in that tricky adversary. I then landed my Messerschmitt Bf-109 perfectly, and was very impressed with the way these pedals handle on the ground. I had to go to the end of the runway, turn around, and make a few more takeoffs and landings just for the heck of it. It was a lot of fun, and feels very, very nice. But, I was noticing that the position of my Saitek X-52 joystick (another GREAT product) was uncomfortable. So, I went out and built myself a small wooden stand. It positions my joystick firmly on top of a small plank, and it sits between my knees on a small post (just like the position of the stick in a real fighter). The throttle sits on the arm of my chair, and is also positioned correctly now. Once I sat down to play again, I was amazed at how much more realistic it felt. It really immerses you into the game at a totally new level, and it is very exciting. It is a little difficult, now that the "easy-mode twisty-stick" yaw is gone, but I'll get to where I can fly better than ever before in no time. These pedals and an X-52 stick+throttle will boost your game play to totally new heights. There is no way to compare them to a cheap "twisty stick". Do NOT let the negative reviews turn you off to this wonderful product. I'm really confused as to how people are being so silly about these pedals. They do NOT lock up when you apply full rudder. The only way you will break these pedals is if you rough them up and slam your feet back and forth on them. If you try to fly like that, then you really aren't a good pilot, or you just have no clue what you're doing. There is NO reason to "dog out" a set of rudders pedals. I'm also laughing at the reports of people complaining about these pedals not working right in Microsoft Flight Simulator. It is VERY simple to set them up to work correctly. People were complaining that in MSFS, the brakes are always "half engaged". All one must do is open the control assignments, reverse each brake axis for the pedals, and adjust the sensitivity to your own preference. Yes, it's that simple... Reverse the brake axises for MSFS, folks! And don't forget to turn the "auto-rudder" feature OFF! Overall, I was VERY pleased with both the product and the service from Amazon.com. I rated 5/5 stars because of this. These pedals will bring your flight sims into the 21st century, and make the game play MUCH more realistic, fun, and exciting. I suggest buying a Saitek X-52 Joystick+Throttle to compliment this wonderful package. You will never regret it!

Verpackt waren die Rudder Pedals komplett montiert in einer großen Pappschachtel, so dass man nach dem Auspacken nur noch den USB-Stecker in einen freien Platz stecken musste und schon konnte es los gehen! Auch die Einrichtung unter Windows war kinderleicht. Ich betreibe die Pedale unter Windows XP, daher kann ich nichts zum Verhalten unter Windows 7 sagen, aber ich denke mal, dass die Dinge hier ähnlich liegen müssten. Unter XP reicht es eigentlich, wenn man den USB-Stecker in den Rechner einsteckt und schon werden die Pedale als Joystick von Windows erkannt und eingerichtet. Ich habe die Erfahrung gemacht, dass die Pedale besser funktionieren, wenn ich sie ohne Treiber einfach als Joystick unter Windows XP anmelde, daher kann ich nichts zum SST-Treiber sagen. Danach habe ich dann den Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004, mit dem ich immer noch hochzufrieden bin, gestartet. Hier habe ich dann die automatischen Seitenruder ausgeschaltet und die entsprechenden Achsen der Rudder Pedals zugewiesen. Zum Schluss habe ich noch die Radbremsen den entsprechenden Achsen der Pedals zugewiesen. Gesamtaufwand ca. 5 min, länger habe ich dafür nicht gebraucht. Schon ging es los zum ersten Flug! Während des Fluges habe ich nur noch ein bisschen mit dem großen Einstellrad in der Mitte rumgespielt und den optimalen Wiederstand der Pedale eingestellt. Mehr war nicht zu tun. Auch in Hinblick auf Verarbeitung und Qualität der Saitek Rudder Pedals bin ich sehr zufrieden. Bisher haben sie immer einwandfrei funktioniert und geben auch nach ein paar Betriebsjahren immer noch sauber und exakt an. Besonders freue ich mich aber darüber, dass ich die Pedale nicht nur für die Flugsimulation einsetzen kann, sondern auch für meine Omnibussimulation „OMSI". Hier habe ich die beiden Bremsachsen der Rudder Pedals einfach mit der Achse „Gas“ und der Achse “Bremsen“ der Busse in Omsi belegt. Dadurch macht auch das Busfahren viel mehr Spaß, weil ich sauber dosiert Gas geben und auch wieder bremsen kann ohne, dass alle Fahrgäste an der Windschutzscheibe kleben. Ich setze die Pedale nun seit über zwei Jahren an meinem PC ein und ich kann immer noch keine Unterschiede zum ersten Tag feststellen. Die Verarbeitung ist richtig gut, alle Teile sind leichtgängig und lassen sich super bedienen. Durch die Größenverstellung ist es auch möglich, die Pedale an unterschiedliche Schuhgrößen anzupassen und damit eine feinfühlige Bedienung für alle zu ermöglichen. Ich bin jedenfalls sehr froh, dass ich mich für die Saitek Rudder Pedals entschieden habe, weil sie meinem FluSi zu viel mehr Realismus verhelfen und ich sie auch zum Busfahren einsetzen kann. Daher kann ich die Saitek Rudder Pedals jedem nur empfehlen!

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These pedals are excellent as do all the Saitek items I have purchased. They are sturdy and work just like the real thing and I would not hesitate to buy more and to recommend them to anyone interested. However; Microsoft has made changes to Windows 10 which seems to have caused some issues with Saitek's new Windows 10 compatibility programming they set up for many of their controllers. I have had Microsoft set up my drivers for these items so that I can load them all manually because if not, I could not use them. But I must repeat that the controllers them selves are excellent and work very much like the real thing and I recommend them to anyone interested.

If you are a flight simulator enthusiastic I would highly recommend this product but you should have a flight yoke and throttle lever before buying it. If you fly Boeing 747 or 737 or an Airbus then you don't need this because big planes have auto rudders. But flying the Cessna 172 or Cessna Caravan etc., is simply superb while using these pedals.

Muy buen precio, muy buenos pedales que se ajustan su fuerza por si quieres volar una Cessna como si de un Boeing 737 se trata. Todo un gran complemento para los que nos gusta la simulación aérea.