Beyond Order

I have seen the book and was going through the contents and have yet to come to a conclusion, as a recovering person I believe that there is a difference between a recovering person and someone just trying to en-act as progressive compulsive disorderly way, if you look at the west there are people who use the 12 rules of NA OR AA however there is a code to it there. That cannot be touched, depression can turn into permanent disease if people try to play with it as the reality sinks in, it is bad and people cannot overcome it without expert help and confinement in medical facilities. When you have fools playing with such knowledge then it is bound to go bad. The knowledge cannot be interpreted correctly those people are all dead and the ones that have tried to use it for financial purposes can and may face consequences.

In 12 More Rules JP provides astonishing view point to the life through psychological perspective. Peterson covers to a greater extent various situations that arises in life & offers a way forward through them with the help of all 12 rules. Rules given by Peterson are not everyday advices we received about confronting life but rather he have form all these rules based on his experience in clinical practice and teaching. Rules presented by Peterson are rendered forward through psychoanalytical perspective. Peterson gives account of various clients he dealt with over his career to explain the applicability and usefulness of the rules. His rules give broad and clear view point to deal with the various grappling situations we face on day-to-day basis. Peterson have come up with life guiding principles in order to deal with lif in best possible optimistic manner to a larger extent.

Just got the book! Hoping it's at least half as good as the first part. The funny part about all 24 rules is that they're well written, their importance and urgency well conveyed, with simple enough starter instructions. And yet, it seems like there is nothing truly meaningful about these rules, something valuable unto themselves, that it strikes the soul somehow. Of course, Peterson would say that it's the responsibility of each individual, and not the dictum of written words. But then, why write about rules at all then?

The content is great but the seller sent the book with damaged marks. Maybe I am picky, but I like my book new and fresh.

No review needed !!!! Must read book.

The book written by Dr Peterson definitely delivers on all the expectations after his previous book. As he himself says in the Overture he is wiser now, and so is the reader if they have followed Dr Peterson in the last many years. The quality of the book in general by the publishing outlet is okay too; it seems durable.

I would suggest that you read the earlier book, before you read this one. Once you do, it'll make things a bit simpler. The book is good, quite helpful and makes you think of how simple little things can make your life better. Would I recommend this book? Absolutely!

Extremely factual and a must read. Quality of the book is also good. Overall satisfied with Amazon product and J B Peterson.

Ich machte mir ernsthafte Sorgen. In den letzten Monaten schien es nicht gut bestellt um Peterson. Viel war da die Rede von Zusammenbrüchen, Medikamentenabhängigkeiten, von Wachkomazuständen inklusiver einer Krankenhausodyssee durch verschiedene Spezialkliniken in Osteuropa. Was ist nicht alles geschehen? In Interviews sah er leichenblass, müde und ziemlich abgekämpft aus. Gleich am Anfang von "Beyond Order", in der Ouvertüre, berichtet der Autor mit bewundernswürdiger Offenheit über seine Unzulänglichkeiten und inneren Kämpfe, ohne jemals seine Medikamentenabhängigkeit zu verharmlosen, was seiner eigenen Heldengeschichte sicher nicht schadet. Da mich Freud, Jung, Hesse, das Alte Testament und Dostojewski seit jeher magisch reizen, habe ich Petersons Werdegang mit Interesse verfolgt. Angefangen habe ich mit Maps of Meaning, damals noch ein Kultbuch für Eingeweihte, schaute ich seine Vorlesungsreihe zu Mythologie, wenig später erfolgte der Aufstieg zur Kultfigur, die immer prominenter platzierten Kontroversen und Streitgespräche, der Höhepunkt der Aufmerksamkeit bei diversen Gender-Gefechten, das Philosophen-Battle mit Zizek und schließlich der schleichende Benzodiazepin-induzierte Rückzug. Soviel Vorgeplänkel. Frisch ran ans Werk, Freunde. Zu allererst fand ich es extrem spannend gerade in solchen Zeiten Peterson zu lesen. Selbst gerade aus Corona-Untiefen zurückgekehrt, gewinnt man Halt bei jemand Bekanntem. Irgendwie hatten schon die ersten Leseseiten etwas Beruhigendes, wie das Treffen eines alten Freundes, der einen an die eigene Verantwortung erinnert. Und bald hörte ich beim Lesen schon Jordans nasale Stimme mit dem kanadischen Alberta-Akzent, die so gerne "abuut" statt "about" sagt und es als brillanter Rhetoriker versteht, sein Publikum zu fesseln. Nach seinem Vorgängerbuch, dem immens erfolgreichen Ratgeber "12 Rules For Life", für Fans mittlerweile wichtiger als die Zehn biblischen Gebote, folgen nun 12 weitere Lebensratschläge. In "Beyond Order" schlägt Peterson einen ähnlichen Ton an, konzentriert sich vor allem auf das Überthema "(Über-)Leben in unsicheren Zeiten". Im Zentrum steht weiterhin die Mythologie, also die stetige individuelle Suche nach Sinn und Bedeutung im irdischen Dasein. Wie gewohnt feuert der Intellektuelle seine Breitseiten gegen die Auswüchse von zunehmender Sprachkritik und ermüdender PC-Madness, allerdings etwas abgemildert, vielleicht auch in meiner Erinnerung, und weniger scharfzüngig als zuvor. Die Kapitel sind wieder wunderbar in ihrer Klarheit, kalt in ihrer Argumentation und gestochen scharf im Stil. Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, wie der Autor, trotz seiner Krankheitsphase, um jeden Satz und jede Formulierung mit sich und seinen Schatten gerungen hat. Wie soll man sich durch das Chaos der Moderne navigieren? Peterson geht tautologisch vor und bewegt sich vom Großen aufs Kleine. "Junge, kehr vor deiner eigenen Haustüre, räum dein Zimmer auf!" Ratschläge zum richtigen Führen einer Beziehung (Ratschlag X Honesty and Trust) tauchen ebenso auf wie Berichte aus dem Klinikalltag und dazwischen versteht Peterson es eine Mythengeschichte einzuflechten. Chaos ist laut Peterson nicht per se schlecht, da auf der anderen Seite der fiese Zwillingsbruder namens "Ordnung" lauert. Mit zu viel Struktur und Ordnung droht uns Stagnation. Echte Bildung funktioniert dabei weder über die reflexhafte Aneignung von Altem oder Neuem. Wie der Titel schon verrät, schlägt Peterson einen Mittelweg vor zwischen "Chaos" und "Ordnung". Die Kernbotschaft lautet heruntergebrochen, dass wir einerseits die Tradition kennen und Sinnvolles bewahren müssen, uns andererseits aber auch ins Neue, Unbekannte wagen sollen. Dieses bemerkenswerte Buch endet, dann mit einem bemerkenswerten XII. Ratschlag: "Be grateful in spite of your suffering". Selbst wenn wir uns am Boden der sozialen Hierarchie befinden, sollen wir Demut und Dankbarkeit empfinden, dass es Menschen mit größerer Ausstrahlung und Expertise gibt, welche für uns Probleme lösen. Keine einfache Übung, wie der Meister selbst gesteht, aber die Hinwendung zum Religiösen hätte ich so nicht erwartet. Zusammen mit seinem Vorgänger bildet "Beyond Order" somit eine grandiose Einheit, ein hellsichtiges Manifest, das Petersons liberale und konservative Ansichten vereinigt, wider der grassierenden Unvernunft. Grandioses Comeback!

When I read and reviewed the first 12 Rules for Life book, I described it as a sort of self-help book for people who don't like self-help books. Present was the distillation of common sensical (but often unarticulated) ideas, but absent were the trite catch phrases and easy fixes that plague much of the genre. I'm pleased to report that the same can be said of this second volume. While this is ostensibly a self-help book that distills important psychological ideas into a dozen simple "rules" for living a better, more meaningful, and more productive life, it's much more than that. It's a wide-ranging treatise on psychology, philosophy, theology, and occasionally even politics (though not too much, and always in a fairly balanced treatment). It's true that the rules themselves are somewhat simplistic--some might even say self-evident. And that's a fair statement. The value in such a book as this, though, is less in the list of rules as they can be read in the table of contents, but in the immeasurably rich explanations and analyses that explain--at a remarkably deep level--the sound psychological, philosophical, historical, theological, mythological, and narrative reasons for each of the rules. The author has an amazing talent for seamlessly combining important ideas from all of these disparate fields in a manner that manages to be accessible to a wide audience without ever speaking down or boring readers who are already familiar with his subjects. It's a rare book indeed that can transition so effortlessly between discussions of cognitive neuroscience to the Bible to Harry Potter and back. That's true of both this book and its predecessor (to which I also gave a five-star review). However, I have to say in all honesty, this book manages to escape the all too common pitfalls of sequels and indeed might even surpass the original (though I maintain that it's best read less as a sequel and more as a second volume of a single long work). Admittedly, some of the examples revisit subjects already familiar from the previous book (or from Peterson's other writings or lectures), but these few stories are important enough that they bear repeating. More importantly, the new material is invariably fascinating, filled with historical notes, literary analyses, scriptural interpretations, and--my personal favorites--psychological case studies. With regard to that last category, this book manages to accomplish something remarkable: it is a self-help book that does not insult the psychologically literate reader. Instead, it draws deeply from the psychological literature (particularly the psychoanalysts, though certainly not limited to them alone) and might even inspire some readers to pursue further study of psychology or even a career in clinical practice. Most importantly, the book differentiates itself from the bulk of its genre by eschewing the easy and the feel-good in favor of the real and the substantial. There are no trite mantras, no happy cliches, no greeting card philosophies. Instead, there are real--often brutal, but equally often hopeful--psychological insights. This is the kind of self-help book that could genuinely help the reader who heeds its advice, precisely because it offers oft-difficult substance rather than simple but ultimately meaningless pronouncements. At a time when much of the world seems shallowly moored at best--and completely unmoored at worst--this book is a godsend for those looking to lead a more meaningful (and with any luck, happier) existence. I cannot recommend it (and its predecessor, though you can easily read the books in any order) highly enough.

A very good book

The book is soo good

Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life by Jordan B. Peterson is a must-read book for anyone looking to improve their lives. As a follow-up to his previous bestseller, 12 Rules for Life, this book goes beyond the original 12 rules and provides readers with 12 more rules for living a meaningful and purposeful life. One of the great things about this book is how easy it is to read and understand. Peterson has a way of breaking down complex ideas into simple, easy-to-understand concepts. His writing is engaging and thought-provoking, and he presents his ideas in a way that is both informative and entertaining. The 12 rules in this book cover a wide range of topics, from the importance of taking responsibility for your own life to the benefits of having a daily routine. Peterson uses his own experiences and insights to provide real-world examples of how these rules can be applied to everyday life. One of the standout chapters in the book is Rule 4, "Notice That Opportunity Lurks Where Responsibility Has Been Abdicated." This chapter is particularly relevant in today's society, where many people are quick to blame others for their problems rather than taking responsibility for their own actions. Peterson argues that by taking responsibility, we open ourselves up to new opportunities and experiences that we may not have otherwise encountered. This book is a fantastic book that is well worth the read. Peterson's insights and advice are invaluable, and his writing style is engaging and informative. Whether you're looking to improve your own life or simply gain a better understanding of the world around you, this book is sure to provide you with plenty of food for thought. Highly recommended! Viviane Presa